Posts by joey jojo

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NEW LIGHT ON THE 144,000 EXPLAINED

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/heulwyd00ku?si=9az0zrsquy67v74g.

the watchtower’s approach to "new light" is, frankly, a masterclass in manipulation.

when they introduce a new interpretation or change their teachings, it's presented as a revelation, showcasing just how guided and spiritually in-tune the governing body is.

joey jojo

I posted fairly recently that I thought the GB would, in the near future , declare the great tribulation has started and would let the number of anointed dwindle, allowing the org to be run by helpers.

Clearly I was wrong. Having a gb of anointed members gives the org an air of authority, regardless of the fact that those members are far younger than expected.

The talk by Jackson - to me anyway, hints at the possibility of some kind of great tribulation announcement, as he mentioned it a few times,along with priming the dubs for 'sudden changes'.

Admittedly, as we have seen lately, those sudden changes could be anything.

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THE PROBLEM WITH THESE 2 NEW GB MEMBERS APPOINTMENTS

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/rjr0ugtu6zu?si=d3zsz20ee33gytxi.

these new appointments are troubling, to say the least, especially considering the factors surrounding their selection.

these appointments raise key concerns about leadership, experience, and what is happening behind the scenes at the organization's headquarters.

joey jojo

LongHairGal
ON THE WAY OUT:
Yes, it’s obvious to the Witness religion that when the Baby Boomers pass away, that’s it.

The youngest boomer is now 60 years old. For anyone from that generation, the org is so different already, imagine how it's going to look in another 10 yrs.

The org was built on the backs of boomers, their children, their free labour and donations. Remember the exciting days of the quick builds in the 80's and 90's combined with exponential growth in the org, all happening within the same generation of 1914? Well that's all gone now.

The org has taken possession of every building and sold the ones that don't make economical sense - regardless of the impact to the members. Armageddon still isn't here and the org now produces country music videos for fucks sake.

I don't know how the older JW's don't feel sick to their stomach.

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"Brother Jodie jenelle began his bethel service in in 1990....."

by nowwhat? in

but what they don't say he left started and ran a real estate company and a global real estate consulting firm and apparently after making a fortune come back to bethel a few years ago.

how in the hell could a non lifer now be anointed and appointed to be a gb member.

sure can't be for his spiritual qualifications!.

joey jojo

Im surprised WT didnt sanitise his online presence a bit better. It only took the ex-jw community a few minutes to dig up the real estate video of him. Its a bad look for him and the org.

According to the website, he has only sold 4 homes. Is there anything to suggest he has become 'rich', or was it just a modest family business?

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Experiences After Leaving

by Freeatlast2024 in

i am writing to ask if anyone cares to share their experience and/or offer advice for people leaving.

i was raised in the religion, and both my parents died when i was very young.

i recently stopped associating because my conscience no longer allows me to preach or support the organization.

joey jojo

Losing your social network is daunting. Making that change can be more stressful than people realise.

My advice - for what it's worth, is to not give up that control if you still have it. If you can play along to an extent and keep your friends if you need to, it might make the change easier.

Remember though, these people won't be your friends once you come clean. Even lifelong JW friends you think you are close and can trust, will shun you and feel self-righteous while doing it.

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THE PROBLEM WITH THESE 2 NEW GB MEMBERS APPOINTMENTS

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/rjr0ugtu6zu?si=d3zsz20ee33gytxi.

these new appointments are troubling, to say the least, especially considering the factors surrounding their selection.

these appointments raise key concerns about leadership, experience, and what is happening behind the scenes at the organization's headquarters.

joey jojo

This contrasts sharply with past appointees, who often had decades of proven leadership and tangible accomplishments. In most organizations, top leadership positions are awarded to those who have demonstrated a long track record of success and contribution, making these appointments seem even more unusual.

Call it whatever you like; change management/ succession planning, the actions of the WT leadership certainly don't give the impression that we are 'close to the end'.

It seems they are appointing corporation men as opposed to religious men, as you point out. and yes, it's amazing how gods spirit can only find white, North American men to fill these roles.

There has to be some older JW's that are starting to become just a little uncomfortable with the direction the WT has taken recently. However, the org has done a good job to brainwash the average JW over the last few years.

The recurring theme of listen and obey, even if it doesn't make sense from a human point of view has been used to prepare JW's for all these changes.

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JWN, 23 years posting Blondie

by blondie in

jw
friends

can i call you friends, i think so after 23 years posting here.

i am dismayed how jwn is being "dominated" or taken over by a few posters, peppering the comments.

in the past, the admin did not approve of this and did remove some posters from jwn.

joey jojo

Hi Blondie, I have enjoyed reading your post's ever since I joined.

For me, I noticed a change particularly when Trump was elected. The politics of the day were divisive and were debated at length here. Covid was another big non-jw issue that sparked a few heated debates.

There has always been the rogue apologist/ fundamentalist/ prophet that turns up from time to time to make life interesting.

Having said that, I think this forum still contains a lot of helpful people and of course, the reference material here would be hard to beat for anyone looking for answers. And yes, call me friend. 😀

As for Simon - our Canadian Overlord, I got the impression a few years ago he was happy to have some other topics discussed besides events pertaining to the JW world.👍

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Two new Governing Body members

by slimboyfat in

jeddoly and rumph???.

who are they?

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joey jojo

As a member of Gen X, when I was a teenager, the thought of one of my peers becoming one of the 144000 anointed was ludicrous and laughable.

In fact I'm sure, anyone of that age at that time would have been counselled if they let it be known they had those thoughts. They would have been viewed by the congregation as mentally ill.

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What evidence is there for a biblical jesus?

by Touchofgrey in

is there any independently verified evidence that a miracle worker called jesus existed and did the things that the bible said he did?.

the four gospels were written by unknown authors many decades after the so called events, so can't be considered as eyewitness accounts.

i think that there may have been a apocalyptic preacher who was executed by the romans and the story evolved from their.

joey jojo

FreeTheMasons

Mythology, fantasy, immorality and violence were what I learned about growing up.

There, you just proved my point. That's what you were taught. Your beliefs haven't changed. It's just a different book.

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What evidence is there for a biblical jesus?

by Touchofgrey in

is there any independently verified evidence that a miracle worker called jesus existed and did the things that the bible said he did?.

the four gospels were written by unknown authors many decades after the so called events, so can't be considered as eyewitness accounts.

i think that there may have been a apocalyptic preacher who was executed by the romans and the story evolved from their.

joey jojo

There seems to be a point where a seemingly rational person becomes irrational when it comes to faith.

If you are broadly the same religion as your parents, or identify as a member of your national religion, it means you accepted what you were told by parents and peers.

Believing a man named Jesus, Mohammed, or whoever once existed is one thing, but basing your way of life on it and insisting your children do the same is madness if you boil it down. Just because something is old doesn't make it right.

All of our parents made mistakes, they were not perfect and all-knowing. So why are they automatically right about the subject of religion?

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What evidence is there for a biblical jesus?

by Touchofgrey in

is there any independently verified evidence that a miracle worker called jesus existed and did the things that the bible said he did?.

the four gospels were written by unknown authors many decades after the so called events, so can't be considered as eyewitness accounts.

i think that there may have been a apocalyptic preacher who was executed by the romans and the story evolved from their.

joey jojo

FreeTheMasons
Thank you. I did enjoy it.🙂 Maybe sometime we'll all have one together - while hanging out with Jesus too.😉

Are you asking me to have a beer with you and some dude from Mexico?

Sounds good - I like Mexican beer.